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February 1, 2007

2:36 PM

Jon Parker
Papyrus

Papyrus font fetish

The ubiquitous granola-label typeface Papyrus has at least one hardcore fan: check the I Heart Papyrus blog. (What, no I Heart Affair or I heart Jukebox blogs?) Via Quipsologies

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There is only one typeface I loath more than Papyrus . . . say it with me now . . . Comic Sans.

And then I said …
jippyjem
  • Friday February 2, 2007 7:01 AM
  • jippyjem

Am I the only one who finds this font to be a blight on design? It's certainly no Comic Sans, but come on... Papyrus?

There are only a few instances on that web site where the face looked well integrated and purposeful in the design. I think too many people use it as a default because it has somehow become a standard font on most operating systems, and it looks "different."

And then I said …
Ben Thoma
  • Friday February 2, 2007 8:38 AM
  • Ben Thoma

I had an idea once, where I was going to find all the "photographers" using Papyrus on their websites, and list them all in one place, because I thought it would be funny.

Never saw it through, though.

And then I said …
Lindsey
  • Friday February 2, 2007 10:29 AM
  • Lindsey

I hate Papyrus with the same intensity I hate Mary Cheney, pretzels, drivers who don't use turn signals and "Sex & The City".

And then I said …
Peecat
  • Friday February 2, 2007 11:25 AM
  • Peecat

Papyrus is awful, but Fajita makes my teeth hurt.

And then I said …
Shawn
  • Friday February 2, 2007 1:43 PM
  • Shawn

I hate to mention it, as I count myself among the masses on this one, but isn't it kind of...'fashionable' to hate Papyrus?

There's definite elitist undertones to the anti-Comic Sans/Papyrus movement.

And then I said …
Lindsey
  • Friday February 2, 2007 2:15 PM
  • Lindsey

Lindsey, I've often thought the same thing. As a previous designer for a photographer I completely removed papyrus from her computers to eliminate any usage after I left.

And then I said …
Kate
  • Friday February 2, 2007 3:17 PM
  • Kate

Shawn, I personally apologize for being the creative director who was behind the release of Fajita back in the 90s. Fajita, and all of the trendy, ubiquitous, annoying, and pervasive fonts that came out of the Image Club typeface library. Although Papyrus was a design that Image Club licensed from Letraset, we sold a crapload of that beast as well - probably because our version had a complete set of diacritics and extended characters. I am truly, truly sorry.

And then I said …
Grant Hutchinson

You know, I may be in a minority here but Papyrus has its uses. It's 99% of the time abused by non designers but I have seen a couple of well designed gems using it (one while in college but it was by a student that just didnt know any better). Like all type faces it was designed with specifice purposes in mind...unfortunatly it's just been used so much to the point that it's made allot of designers queasy looking at it.

As for Fajita, I'm guilty for using it recently for a pro-bono job promoting Hispanic Heritage. I would not have used that type face at all if it werent for the painting going on the poster and it came out quite nicely. One of thsoe instances where trite type faces actually saved the day. But if you're wondering, no I would never ever ever ever use Papyrus myself.

And then I said …
Katja
  • Tuesday February 6, 2007 3:22 AM
  • Katja

It's the new Brush Script

And then I said …
Cee-Lo
  • Wednesday February 7, 2007 12:11 PM
  • Cee-Lo

Not a great font, but I honestly don't see it that many places, so I don't think it's rampant. Speaking of rampant and inappropriate, remember back in the early/mid 90s how Copperplate Gothic was everywhere? How the hell did that happen?

And then I said …
Joel
  • Thursday February 8, 2007 12:53 PM
  • Joel

Yes, Papyrus is absolutely horrendous. I'm most anguished by the way its freely used to brand organic, healthy, earthy living. I was specially horrified when it came to take front row in the in our family owned organic farm logo. I was obviously not the one responsible. I'm trying to convince them to change it to something better.

As for Fajita ever representing Hispanic heritage, as a Mexican, I'm appalled. But my most hated font ever has to be Rats

And then I said …
Davo
  • Friday March 23, 2007 6:15 PM
  • Davo

The reason it is so despised is because it comes preinstalled on every computer on the planet... even your grandmother can use it, and probably does. Now it's everywhere... she's a pop star, a commercial success, the Britney Spears of fonts. What next... the tabloids?

What you are complaining about is not the font, but all the people who use it.

And then I said …
ChrisC
  • Tuesday May 1, 2007 10:37 AM
  • ChrisC

I don't think Papyrus is a bad font, but I do get a kick out of driving down Mainstreet, USA and spotting it on signs or awnings and even better, flipping through just about any ad-heavy newspaper and seeing how long it takes to find an example. "Ubiquitous" doesn't do the trend justice.

I remember the Copperplate blight. I still see remnants here and there.

Rats is hilarious! I have even seen that hideous font.

Brushscript gives me hives.

Fajitas!! Lordy, I didn't even know its name. But now that you mention it, that font is trite and silly.

And then I said …
Bonkers
  • Wednesday May 9, 2007 9:20 PM
  • Bonkers

If Papyrus was released today, it would be used by designers more. It's familiarity and accessibility have made it stale, but I would still use it if it were the best font for the job... though I never have... heh

And then I said …
John
  • Saturday May 12, 2007 10:42 AM
  • John

Papyrus, more like POOPYrus!

And then I said …
joeyshabadoo
  • Wednesday July 18, 2007 5:28 PM
  • joeyshabadoo

Wow. That was a fun read. Unfortunately I found it because I'm doing someone else's bidding and had to go searching for Papyrus to include in a newsletter ... and it's actually not on my machine. My wiser unconscious must have guided me to delete it one day....

And then I said …
rach1155
  • Wednesday August 22, 2007 11:57 AM
  • rach1155

When companies don't have their own logo to drop onto our t-shirt designs, I sometimes send them Papyrus as one of several options.
I'd say they choose it about 3 out of 5 times. It's amusing to me because I imagine they choose it because it looks fresh and different and will set them apart.
I don't have a problem with it. CS on the other hand...

And then I said …
Erik
  • Wednesday October 3, 2007 2:48 PM
  • Erik

I can only agree with Lindsey. And it sure smacks of Easy Elitism.

And then I said …
Raphael
  • Monday March 17, 2008 1:17 PM
  • Raphael

are you serious right now? does everyone really care this much about a font?

And then I said …
allison
  • Tuesday March 25, 2008 1:43 PM
  • allison

Note commenter "ChrisC", above, is Chris Costello, the designer of Papyrus.

Just wanted to point out how graciously he added to the thread. He didn't mention he was the designer and get all defensive, instead he agreed with its ubiquity and misuse.

And then I said …
Jon Parker
  • Tuesday March 25, 2008 2:19 PM
  • Jon Parker
  • Veer Community Team

Funny stuff.. I'm doing small changes to a pretty awful looking website right now (pays the bills man) and was told to use Papyrus in the logo. I went Googling and found this page - thanks for letting me know the font is already installed my computer lol. I had no idea and I could've sworn I've drilled through my font list a million times, I must be subconsciously blocking Papyrus from my mind.

And then I said …
Raspberry
  • Thursday June 5, 2008 11:48 PM
  • Raspberry

Subconscious Font Blocking Syndrome (SFBS) is an acknowledged and well-documented psychological coping mechanism. It is most likely to be found in designers forced to work on “pretty awful” projects. Srsly.

And then I said …
Grant Hutchinson

Treading the fine line between debate and rant with effortless ease. You should all be very proud of yourselves.

I hadn't noticed the ubiquity of Papyrus until you mentioned it. What really narks me is the use of Comic Sans in company logos and promotional material. It instantly repels me, and I take my business elsewhere. I mean, if you're a serious company, surely you can afford your own font, right? It's like seeing a hotmail address on the side of a company van. Complete turn-off!

But then, as an EFL teacher, I love Comic Sans for worksheets. Almost all the letters look exactly like the ones I want my students to write. It's mostly the a, although TNR has this weirdsh¡t g... Comic Sans is almost perfect. Only the t is weird and the q has no flicky bit at the end of the tail. I like the flicky bit.

You will no doubt be relieved to hear that this is the _only_ use I put it to. I never write anything else in it, ever. Promise!

And then I said …
James
  • Thursday July 16, 2009 5:38 AM
  • James

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